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Pathfinder78		#41	[-]
Posts: 677 (06/25/09 8:52 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Hey Thimo, I know a few people BORN in 1979 who look older than you, kudos to you! Nice ballista btw Buttercup: We'll never survive. Westley: Nonsense. You're only saying that because no one ever has. "The Princess Bride"
Rod	Heading for the 165 lb?	#42	[-]
Posts: 2488 (06/26/09 2:42 AM) Administrator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Looking good Thimo. Are you going to be the first heavy bow shooter ever who has the moxy to publish stats on group sizes at various heavy bow distances? Rod. P.S. Andy, Not Chief AJ again, that's old news. Did he say anything about his rate of fire and accuracy with that draw-weight? Not that I care particularly, it's not a realistic fighting weight. Mark Stretton has shot that weight but told me later that he wouldn't want to make a habit of it. Last Edited By: Rod 06/26/09 2:49 AM. Edited 2 times.
Thimosabv		#43	[-]
Posts: 7347 (06/26/09 3:37 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Rod I will. Yesterday I shot 8 arrows 5 sepperate times. My target a ginko tree 202 yards out. Average spacing of arrows were in groups about 12" apart at 196 yards. All near the base of the tree. Much better than I had hoped for. Now to see if I get more distance out of it after piking to 76" and heat-treating the belly into slight reflex. Shot at 2009-06-26 Shot at 2009-06-26
toxophileken		#44	[-]
Posts: 7826 (06/26/09 5:04 AM) Administrator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Good stuff, Thimo! But get that upper inner limb out of the handle under control, or get a crash helmet... Ha ha. Seriously, though, I am surprised you got that much weight and draw without the outer limbs bending much (reflex?) A tribute to your skill, for sure... Ken
CarvedTones	The thing is....	#45	[-]
Posts: 229 (06/26/09 5:05 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Rod, I was just posting the result of the search suggested in the previous post in a little more "click friendly" form. I did have some second thoughts as this is Thimo's current story but since it didn't inspire a bunch of tangents I left it. If you wanted to moderate it out, I would not feel slighted. 12" at 196 yards is pretty darn good. -Andy The Chief AJ thing really doesn't matter Andy, just as long as that "other" 200 lb draw dude doesn't turn up. Is that a 12" group, or a fan with an "average estimate" of 12" between arrows (60") not really including discards? If all the groups were aimed at the same mark, what is the spread between shortest, longest, furthest left and furthest right? You see the issue her as regards useful information? Rod. -Andy www.carvedtones.com Last Edited By: Rod 07/03/09 8:47 AM. Edited 1 times.
dutchwarbow		#46	[-]
Posts: 523 (06/26/09 8:20 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	12" average... that's pretty much my best at 165yards...! respect how long were your fletches, how high, and how heavy are your arrows? Any results on tempering? Nick
Druid		#47	[-]
Posts: 134 (06/26/09 10:31 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	My God Thimo.... THAT is a bow!!!!! Excellent....
French Crow		#48	[-]
Posts: 715 (06/26/09 10:39 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	12" (=inches) apart at 196 yards ? I would be very pleased with 12' (=12 feet) apart at this yardage... Even regardless accuracy, that's an impressive bow. Elm wood likes tempering, I cannot wait for the results. Bruno
arges		#49	[-]
Posts: 16 (06/28/09 1:43 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	nice bow thimo!! I just wonder about the belly shape, is it elb round or elliptical.
fusizoli		#50	[-]
Posts: 331 (06/28/09 11:13 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Hm thats great! Some pics from surface? I have to cut some more wood for this warbow project ...... U had right, I felt bad 75# on 27 4 braceheight 16 pl FF string. Very strange to feel stronger than a 95 # on 33 recuve horsebow but I have no expiriance before The nice part of the story , she is very fast. Nicely shoot target from 60m with 650gn dogwood arrows. Thats very nice distance target shoots U had talk about!
CarvedTones		#51	[-]
Posts: 234 (06/28/09 11:32 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I did happen on a long distance claim reading a book on making bows the old fashioned way. 3 arrows in a paper plate at 225 yards, supposedly done at Primitive Nationals. Others may have more input on the acuracy of that claim. Any update? -Andy www.carvedtones.com
indygoman		#52	[-]
Posts: 545 (06/28/09 4:07 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Wow ! Thimo every time I see a post from you its always a great surprise ..you always amaze me with your skill and your also your strength ..Man I can pull 100 tops anything over that I would pull an O ring LOL Dude you must be a decedent of Thor or Hercules ..
Rod	Yeah but.....	#53	[-]
Posts: 2492 (07/01/09 3:40 AM) Administrator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Thimosabv wrote: Rod I will. Yesterday I shot 8 arrows 5 sepperate times. My target a ginko tree 202 yards out. Average spacing of arrows were in groups about 12" apart at 196 yards. All near the base of the tree. Much better than I had hoped for. Not too dusty, but an anecdotal account, not a precise record of the actual distribution. Rod
toxophileken		#54	[-]
Posts: 7872 (07/01/09 9:20 AM) Administrator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Rod, if it wouldn't be too much trouble, do you think you could post (here or in another thread) your recommendations for how to carry out and record the testing you'd like to see? I think you did it before, but it might be beneficial to have it again in case anyone wants to carry forward and try and supply useful information for you. Ken
Rod	An easy but comparable mark for long shooting?	#55	[-]
Posts: 2499 (07/03/09 8:41 AM) Administrator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Anyone in the States can pop into the local Walmart and get a pool toy that will serve as a mark for wand shooting. It the Jays/Pacific "supernoodle". It is a foam flotation device 5 feet long and 4" in diameter with a 22mm hole through it's length. Comes in a variety of conspicuous colours. I can get 22mm dia dowels 6 feet long locally in a place that sells bannister mouldings and other constructional lumber. These are a perfect fit. It is remarkable how well this will stop and hold a field pointed 500 grain shaft travelling at 150 to 170 fps at aslittle as 15 paces. If one of these is planted at 60 yards or more, up to 240 yards, they make great roving wand targets. Cut into 12" lengths it makes a useful short post to provide the mark for a version of the clout mark. I suggest something like this as at Thimo's drop in distance. In other words a clout distance, between 180 yards and 240 yards. Using a long piece of string and a road marking aerosol, mark concentric circles around the post. A clout could be radiuses of 18", 36", 72", 108" and 144", scoring values of 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. Line cutters score the higher value. All shots count, anything outside does not score. Sets of three or six arrows. If the scoring zone is not big enough come up with one that suits you. Maybe 10 circles with radii of 2 ft, 4 ft, 6 ft, 8ft, 10 ft, 12 ft, 14 ft, 16 ft, 18 ft, 20 ft. Scoring values of 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. That is big enough that no-one should have too much trouble staying in the scoring zone. The thing about scoring something simple is that anyone can do it and the values reflect the average achieved without any bias, always assuming that the scores are honestly scored and reported.. It is important that anyone can do it and compare like for like. What do you think? Rod. Thimo, Take it easy man. "Nihil illegitimi carborundum". Old RAF saying last seen painted under the cockpit of a Spitfire at the anniversary fly in. Last Edited By: Rod 07/07/09 2:49 AM. Edited 2 times.
Jaro		#56	[-]
Posts: 357 (07/03/09 10:10 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Mark has pulled 200# bow the whole 32", while judging the pictures Chief Aj has an arrow, which is long something like 24". J.
Thimosabv		#57	[-]
Posts: 7355 (07/03/09 11:54 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Rod I like your suggestion and yes I know the materials you describe. I'll give it a try.
dutchwarbow		#58	[-]
Posts: 538 (07/03/09 12:00 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Thimo how are you? Good to see you back! Nick
toxophileken		#59	[-]
Posts: 7886 (07/03/09 12:02 PM) Administrator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Great Rod! Thanks!! Yes, Thimo, glad to see you back. Please keep in touch. Ken
Rod		#60	[-]
Posts: 2501 (07/06/09 1:12 AM) Administrator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	CarvedTones wrote: I did happen on a long distance claim reading a book on making bows the old fashioned way. 3 arrows in a paper plate at 225 yards, supposedly done at Primitive Nationals. Others may have more input on the acuracy of that claim. Any update? My first reaction would be ask how big was that paper plate? :-) Not impossible, but highly unlikely. Three deliberate and consecutive wooden arrows out of a plain and simple wooden bow into a plate sized mark at 225 yards involves not only seamless concentration and clean shot execution, it also involves a massive ration of luck. So much can happen betwen the loose and the strike. Just a breath of wind can put it outside the plate. My best group of three at long distance was on a very calm day in practice, so it realy doesn't count. At 180 yards my first arrow split the clout marker, the second pinned the flag against the marker and the third was measured at 25" from the clout centre. FRF however put three deliberate shafts into the clout at 180 yards in open competition and Bert Smith (BLBS Two Way Clout Record Holder) made and awarded him a the only "Three Clout" badge in existence. Rod.

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