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CarvedTones |
yet another "what wood is this? any good for bows?" |
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I was picking up some logs/limbs this morning; took a bunch of branches for someone and dumped them in exchange for the "good" pieces. I got some
chucks of catalpa for carving that I know are good, but the main thing I got i am not so sure about. Via email, he thought it was a non fruiting pear like
Bradford, but it was not. I have seen this stuff around a lot but don't know the name off the top of my head. The shape is bizarre; if I sliced it up and
took pictures of successive slices and played it back as an animation, it would look like an amoeba break dancing. I kept pieces that were about as reasonable
as it gets. Lots of littles projections out of the bark that aren't quite thorns. Anyway:
-Andy
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davidc135 |
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Not at all sure but the leaves suggest prunus; a plum or cherry of some kind, in which case probably good for bows. David
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CarvedTones |
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Ends hve been painted. It may be my imagination, but just from the short exposure from when I first got them (and he waited until I got there to cut to length)
and when I painted, the ends looked very slightly tanned and the rings were easier to see. Still very light whitewood. The catalpa pieces (not for bows) are
"coffee with too much cream" light brown and this wood looks blinding white next to them.
-Andy
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rossfactor |
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My money's on Alder. Which would be unfortunately for your bowmaking experience. Pretty wood, but quite brittle. I'm pretty certain it's not
cherry, based on the bark (which grows axially on a cherry tree, but not on the wood in these pictures). Although Cherry is very photosensitive, which would
jive with your 'tanning' observations. Really looks like Alder (alnus) to me. Gabe
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CarvedTones |
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Another update. It isn't my imagination. You can see the "tan line" where I just removed a little more bark at one end (some whas already missing
from being cut). The bright white on the end is exterior latex.
-Andy
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rossfactor |
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My money's on Alder. Which would be unfortunately for your bowmaking experience. Pretty wood, but quite brittle. I'm pretty certain it's not
cherry, based on the bark (which grows axially on a cherry tree, but not on the wood in these pictures). Although Cherry is very photosensitive, which would
jive with your 'tanning' observations. Really looks like Alder (alnus) to me. Gabe
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CarvedTones |
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I had a "well, duh" moment and my money is on cherry. I was out hitting a tennis ball back and forth in the circle with one of my kids when a ball
somehow got past me
-Andy
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boerneaggie |
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This is too easy. It's hackberry.
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CarvedTones |
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I dragged a limb out to my Yoshino and side by side it isn't quite as close as it first seemed. Very similar, but I am open to it being something else
after all. One other difference that sticks out with them side by side is that the mystery wood is more misshapen. The Yoshino in my yard has lots of
"less than round" spots, but the other wood is nothing but odd shaped. EDIT - looking at Googled images, I am still leaning toward cherry.
"Alder logs" shows round logs pretty uniformly. Hackberry is harder to find pics of in logs. but the few tree pictures I found have different bark.
-Andy
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Sulphur |
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thats hackberry. there are a few varieties of it. in east texas the leaves are smaller. Makes a great bow. check out this link.
http://texastreeid.tamu.edu/content/listOfTrees/index.aspx?t=H |
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CarvedTones |
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Hmm... You two seem pretty sure. The one thing that bugs me is all the hackberry pictures I have found show a single trunk and not a bunch of trunks and I have
not seen the odd shaped trunks. I did find some Okame Cherry pictures that had the log shape and branching pattern, but the bark was wrong. I wish I could say
with some authority what it is if asked, but it looks like it is probably good bow wood. A small split out piece dried in the sun and it is very fibrous,
"bendy" and doesn't seem brittle. Some very interesting pieces. On the small stuff, diameter is a foreign concept. I have one branch that is a
flattish oval, maybe 1.5" x 3", for much of it's length. I have one log that looks like a python crawling away from a petting zoo, with all the
odd bulges and variances. The ends are painted and it is in covered storage. There it will sit for a while; I still have plenty of pecan in front of it.
-Andy
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Rokonman |
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Thats Hackberry all right. Tough to split and bad about twisting but will make a good bow.
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goose |
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Definitely Hackberry....the bumps are the give-away....
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Mmm, yes, seems to be quite many species or sub species of this tree.
They are right, it is Celtis, or hackberry. The variety I can find here is greenish colour wood, but others are white. |
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CarvedTones |
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I think I sense a consensus here; I will call it hackberry.
Goose, between your comment about "the bumps" and your avatar I am not sure quite where my mind went, but... The "bumps" are absolutely the first thing you notice that sets this wood apart from anything else. Few trees are perfect cylinders but this stuff is crazy odd shaped. I did notice one thing that I did not post in this thread; it was an out of control suburban ornamental yard tree and he said it bloomed profusely. But the owner was a bachelor and had no specifics on size and color of the flowers... -Andy
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DCM4 |
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The bumps on the bark look like lichen or some other hanger on, closer inspection could verify. Leaves and stem tempt me towards box elder.
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CarvedTones |
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OK, maybe we need to get some terminology straight. There are "warts" on top of the bark that are definitely part of it. The "bumps" are
under the bark; it is the shape of the log. Ask a kid to make a tree out of playdo without rolling it and the trunk will get shaped like this stuff.
-Andy
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CarvedTones wrote: Oops, sorry about that.........
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rossfactor |
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Ok the fact the you said the wood was light is a reason to doubt alder, which is often quite heavy. I could buy Hackberry, or even a fruitless Mulberry.
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gmc |
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In a recent post of mine, this was confirmed by more than one being Hackberry also. Very interesting. Distinct and easy to identify.......
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Sulphur |
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that is definitley hackberry even the cross section of the bark is a dead give away ( to me anyway). I've debarked quite a few staves of hackberry and
thats identical. some have more warts than others but they all have some. young trees often have a grey smooth bark till just a ground level. Oh and i have
seen some with multiple trunks in every way. It is the whitest of white woods so split it, seal it , and keep it off the ground. Also its the worldest most
bendable wood. Steam it good and you can nearly turn it into a pretzel.
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