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thebarbariansam	Most important skills	Lead	[-]
Posts: 713 (06/06/09 10:47 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Tags : None just wondering for an opinion poll In a modern survival situation, what skills would you find the most usefull (Result) Fire making Shelter making Wild Edibles Bow/slings/atlatls/other hunting tool creation trapping string making/fiber skills trapping/game reading flintknapping pottery metarlworking woodworking other
Mister Owl		#1	[-]
Posts: 886 (06/07/09 5:40 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	You really ought to define what you mean by "modern survival situation" as it can readily be interpreted two ways. A more strict definition of lost somewhere for a period of time or a looser definition of living after "The Collapse." Edited to add... Fire is the first thing one typically needs unless you are in a warm location. However, what I've learned is that making fire is the best way to interest someone into primitive skills, but cordage is the skill someone should learn first as so many other skills builds upon it. Think about it this way, in that long ago and far away, ancient tribe children watch and learn from the adults the skills they will someday need. Cordage is most likely to be the one children master first. Teach a man to make fire and he'll be warm for the night. Light a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. Last Edited By: Mister Owl 06/07/09 5:56 AM. Edited 1 times.
Coyotlviejo		#2	[-]
Posts: 4194 (06/07/09 7:25 AM) Administrator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Samsquatch, I assume you're thinking of Afghanistan... In extreme cold, perhaps fire is #1. I'm still voting for shelter, though, as good shelter can at least keep you at freezing temps but not below, then your clothes can make up the difference to keep you warmer. A fire without shelter, however, only protects one side of you, and you can freeze to death sitting next to an open fire. Besides, I doubt you'll want the Taliban to see your smoke... Dan My Website...
NordicFletchr		#3	[-]
Posts: 391 (06/07/09 6:44 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I voted for "other" -- in particular, The Ability To Think Through A Problem and The Ability To Learn From Mistakes. Really, your brain is your most valuable tool, and knowing how to use it to full advantage is your most valuable skill. It don't matter whether you can make fire using only starlight and a belt buckle if you can't figure out how to keep the fire going...... The Past is the Past, what is Done cannot be undone; While it is Good to remember the Past -- living in the Past, allowing it to rule your life, accomplishes nothing good. I have been told only a non-Native would ever think this way. If so, then I am proud to be "non-Native".
thebarbariansam		#4	[-]
Posts: 716 (06/08/09 9:19 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Yea i was thinking more around the situation of surviving a crash in high mountains. -Samsquatch If its tourist season, how come we cant shoot them?
2traxx		#5	[-]
Posts: 1350 (06/08/09 9:54 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	As i posted in the other thread,they are gonna Tell You,what and how your gonna do things anyway.Theres the Right way,the wrong way,and the USMC way.LOL
SleepingWolf		#6	[-]
Posts: 621 (06/08/09 10:15 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	gogogo wild edibles~!!! A society grows great when old men plant trees whose shade they know they shall never sit in. - Greek Proverb
PaleoTasmanian		#7	[-]
Posts: 11 (06/10/09 4:58 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Cordage contributes to fire, shelter, food acquisition. Helen Benson: You said you came to save us. Klaatu: I said I came to save the Earth. Helen Benson: You came to save the Earth... from us. You came to save the Earth from us. Klaatu: We cant risk the survival of this planet for the sake of one species. Helen Benson: What are you saying? Klaatu: If the Earth dies, you die. If you die, the Earth survives.
torjusg		#8	[-]
Posts: 586 (06/11/09 6:32 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Most of the crafts things you don't really need, you usually have substitutes at hand. Trapping however (I voted that) is a skill that can't be substituted except other means of getting food. The closer you get to equator, the less important this skill is, but up here in the boreal forest it is much more important than knowing wild plants. But that said, if fishing was an option, I would choose that. Because fishing is marvelously dependable with often a great return. Torjus Gaaren "Environmental Endtimer" Living Primitively
STOBBER		#9	[-]
Posts: 125 (06/11/09 2:30 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I voted other since the term "modern" throws a different perspective on the poll. Also "other" can be the need for water........fire , water , shelter , food. Just my 2 cents worth!
Mister Owl		#10	[-]
Posts: 893 (06/11/09 2:40 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	When prioritizing remember that you can survive: 3 minutes without air 3 hours without shelter (for this reason, in my mind, I include fire as part of the shelter category) 3 days without water 3 weeks without food Teach a man to make fire and he'll be warm for the night. Light a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
weaselbear5		#11	[-]
Posts: 229 (06/11/09 4:12 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	i believe fire comes first...shelters can be improvised, but without fire you cant have good water or cooked food. next would be wild eds.. notg many people are good at this skill, and it takes a long time to get good at it. plus, you should be using the wilds now, so you get used to their flavors. weapons and trapping would be next..
Mitch		#12	[-]
Posts: 10 (06/12/09 1:41 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	without proper MINDSET, no "skills" will save you....
Peter		#13	[-]
Posts: 497 (06/12/09 4:36 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Awareness, knowledge and experience of the environment you're in. Also, multitasking skills are a complete must! All the skills are a piece of cake to learn, it's how to find what you need when you need it, being the harder part. A fun exercise is to give yourself one hour to collect and locate as many resources as you possibly can that would help you survive. Your awareness and experience in that particular, or similar, environment is what makes or breaks you. In the mid-west and eastern U.S. I'll do this and at the end of the hour I'll have armloads of cordage materials, large and small stone blades reduced from larger sources, bowdrill AND handdrill materials, tinder, bones, feathers, etc. and located good shelter sites, water sources, areas with high animal activity, etc. With multitasking skills that can all be done in an hour. Multitasking also helps you save energy/calories. So, I think awareness and multitasking are on the top of my list..... might just fit under the "mindset" catogory. Peter
hardawaypoints		#14	[-]
Posts: 367 (06/14/09 4:13 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Shelter would be first. It is necessary to keep you warm, dry, shaded, out of the weather/ wind. It would also give you a base to work from on some of the other skills that could provide nourishment. Jim
Riverman		#15	[-]
Posts: 203 (06/14/09 10:16 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I voted for cordage, although I really really like the multitasking comment from Peter, that would be my vote but I had to pick something! The reason I picked this is cordage is used in part with pretty well all the other skills. You can use it to tie your shelter together, start a fire (bow drill), make/repair clothing, snares/traps, fishing lines and nets, rope for climbing to get to those hard to reach places safely (hey if your near cliffs, great for climbing down and getting bird eggs), rope to safely cross rivers and many, many other uses! I am actually a thoroughly addicted flintknapper and probably spend more time on that than any other skill, however I would vote for that as the least important survival skill (handy but not neccessary!). Anyone can bash two rocks together to get a sharp edge with no skill whatsoever if they need one. As for knapping for hunting, you're probably better off learning how to make good atlatl dart shafts or arrow shafts and good fletching as they will almost negate the difference of a well knapped point to a poorly knapped point (as long as they are pointy and sharp!). Besides you will have more success snaring/trapping small game, fishing and collecting wild edibles than you ever would going after large game. On top of that there are lots of easier ways to kill stuff than shooting them! I vote for cordage as it is one of the easiest skills to learn and directly benefits almost all the other skills in your list.
Lady Nauriel		#16	[-]
Posts: 247 (06/18/09 8:22 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	A working brain is the most important thing. Having a partial-to-non-working brain right now, I can speak from experience.
Ogri the trog		#17	[-]
Posts: 33 (06/18/09 9:38 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I voted "Other", While I know all of the skills listed to be of great importance when they are needed, the ability to recognise that the need is presenting itself is not always clear. My prime skill would be "Oppotunism" so that the survivor takes/makes the best use of any oppotunity that comes his way, being adaptable I suppose. ATB Ogri the trog http://www.reddragonbushcraft.com
Peter		#18	[-]
Posts: 498 (06/19/09 7:46 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Ogri, I totally agree with opportunism! It's a great way to live even when not in the woods.
mariobab		#19	[-]
Posts: 76 (06/22/09 8:43 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Shelter is priority, but as natural shelters may be ready available, fire would be more important skill, in my opinion. mario
staveshaver		#20	[-]
Posts: 81 (06/23/09 12:09 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Fire ,Shelter,trapping can be difficult to impossible without cordage ,kind of a rock, paper ,scissors thing with this subject.

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