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omidivad		#21	[-]
Posts: 46 (05/05/09 11:52 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Great vid, now I want one!! Boris
fusizoli		#22	[-]
Posts: 168 (05/05/09 1:18 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Nick did u mesaured that bow? Looks prety fast with that heavy arrow. Give it a try for flight with some lighter flight arrows. First I saw the film without sound, but after I hear it it was frenetic. Like those sound! I use smaller faders, for this tistance shoots and they doesent make so much voice. (but fly farer ) Somethimes thinking about why English archers use so big faders, don't know yet. Mongolians have nearly the same sized arrows and use very flat long faders. The big (high) fader reduce distance and speed. May be that voice is the answer?
dutchwarbow		#23	[-]
Posts: 258 (05/05/09 1:19 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	HaHa Jaro! I know what you're talking about. Been lifting weight 4 times a week, for a 1,5 year now, and went back to twice a week as my school results got worse I got to love muscleache, but shoulderache ain't that funny thanks Boris! get one! Nick
KeganTheCaveman		#24	[-]
Posts: 166 (05/05/09 1:21 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I like that video Nick! Looks like some good shooting. I thought I was nuts for shooting "heavy" hunting bows of 70-80# (and you and I are quite similiar in weight and stature). Kudos! Last Edited By: KeganTheCaveman 05/05/09 3:49 PM. Edited 1 times.
Jaro		#25	[-]
Posts: 326 (05/05/09 1:48 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I m still thinking that we make the fletching way higher than at least some of it was, but these arrows are so heavy that they need lots of fletch to stabilise. Longer and flatter is better though. When man shoots at target which is closer distance, it becomes very obvious - that these big fletchings stabilise it quickly. But both BLBS Standart arrow and John Holder challenge have prescribed height of fletch as a means of prevention of sporterisation of equipment and keeping the bows at certain weight, rather than constant "improving" of arrows - which is in my understanding similar to means the Tudors employed to prevent likewise sporterisation of bows and keeping the equipment mil-spec. Jaro Last Edited By: Jaro 05/05/09 2:00 PM. Edited 1 times.
Jaro		#26	[-]
Posts: 327 (05/05/09 1:56 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Fusizoli - do you have some ancient mongolian arrow specs, when we talk about that? Could you post that in "Arrows" section? I should ask my uncle about those in ulanbatar museum he photographed back in 70´when shootin archery competetion there.... Nick - it certainly isnt funny, at least it wasnt when I injured myself. But if you shoot 110# regulary, it is likely you wont get injured now. I would be carefull with more weight intil your bones ossify completelly. Well, the bow I made went to new owner today. Jaro
dutchwarbow		#27	[-]
Posts: 259 (05/05/09 1:58 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	thanks fusizoli! I think Jaro pretty much answered your question thanks Kegan! 70-80pounds really is pretty much for hunting bows Jaro, these are indeed more or less based on the BLBS livery arrows, exept from the fletch binding, and horn inserts. Nick
Dauntless		#28	[-]
Posts: 283 (05/05/09 2:03 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Crazy video you guys. That sound is incredible: Ballistas indeed.
fusizoli		#29	[-]
Posts: 169 (05/05/09 2:19 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I think the good relase is the most important. On my heavy arrows from dogwood 1000 grain the bigger ones 32-34 long and 500 the smaller ones 28 long. Pingeon and wild turkey fader on tham under a half high and shootable from short distance too from a 90 strong bow. 25m Sound is nearly nothing. http://vegyes.fusizoli.fotoalbum.hu/viewlarge/pictureid/6530955 Two weeks ago we have a "probe" not race just a war imitation. 200 shoot between 240-50 meters . We shoot from 9 to 19 oclock. It was great. 50 people there with 10 arrows from every distance (10) With that size fader shurely couldn't shoot the 240m with an 500 grain arrow. And there was 2 hits on the soldgier target from that distance! I used 475 grain 31 long pine arrows with pingeon faders 3 long and 0.4 high. We have strong opposite wind , my arrows felt down 10meters before the target zone from 240m. This was my first this kind of distance shooting, the bigest target distance was 120m before.
fusizoli		#30	[-]
Posts: 170 (05/05/09 2:24 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Jaro I havent got, just saw some. But u should see it on youtube there is an old mongol bowyer make a bow and arrow.
French Crow		#31	[-]
Posts: 617 (05/05/09 9:41 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	dutchwarbow wrote: ................. Jaro, these are indeed more or less based on the BLBS livery arrows, exept from the fletch binding, and horn inserts. .......... Hey, Nick ! It looks like you made some arrows finally !!!! And not the simplest one. Could we see them ? Nice video with impressive rate of fire, both of you. Nick, perhaps you could increase your angle to shoot farther. Bruno
Jaro		#32	[-]
Posts: 328 (05/05/09 11:17 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	fusizoli - the equipment mongols make and use today is based on chinese bows and uncomparable to bows and arrows of mogol invasion, thus my original question. I used 475 grain 31 long pine arrows with pingeon faders 3 long and 0.4 high. - That is more like flight arrows fletch then.... The dogwood arrows on picture are nice, though. J. Last Edited By: Jaro 05/06/09 12:13 AM. Edited 1 times.
tribunmarcus		#33	[-]
Posts: 125 (05/06/09 12:30 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Nick I admire your determination for such heavy bows.
dutchwarbow		#34	[-]
Posts: 260 (05/06/09 8:41 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	thanks Dauntless! Ballista's, haha! And thank you too, mihai, for your kind comment! Bruno, I made some arrows indeed! here's your pictures! the 'new' arrows, first couple of 3: after some shooting they looked like this: I actually made 4 more; one came out to light due an error on the scale (it measured 7grams of weight without anything on it, haha! it came out 7grams lighter than all others). And I gave the other 3 arrows to Jorik for his new bow and ehm bruno... I fired an arrow to france already, it should arrive in a few hours. Keep your eyes open! Nick
French Crow		#35	[-]
Posts: 621 (05/06/09 11:46 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Cool arrows you made. You may want to wrap the point of feathers in order to avoid any problem. dutchwarbow wrote: and ehm bruno... I fired an arrow to france already, it should arrive in a few hours. Keep your eyes open! Nick I had your arrow. It was deeply stuck in the chinese satellite that crashed in front of my home. Thanks. Bruno
fusizoli		#36	[-]
Posts: 171 (05/06/09 11:57 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Nice work Nick! Wraping before the nock if u didn't put horn in it. This strong bows should split the nock.
omidivad		#37	[-]
Posts: 52 (05/06/09 12:31 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Ah Nick, I think I will try to make one and see what happens. Hopefully it won't dislocate my shoulder Boris
dutchwarbow		#38	[-]
Posts: 263 (05/06/09 1:22 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	bruno, that's called chinese quality huh... putting a 'made in china' stamp on every inch of it but don't even look at the protection against bodkin tipped arrows... Hope you can get the arrow out of that messy bunch of non-hardened steel and put it somewhere it belongs fusizoli, my bow is indeed ought to split these, but it somehow refuses to do so But I don't think these dirty fletched poles deserve a nice wrapping Boris, enjoy making it! and especially, enjoy shooting it! Warbows seem to embrace you once you shoot them start with something like 80-90# @ 32" for training the warbow-draw, build up strength and you'll reach those high drawweights pretty soon! Nick
boybowyer		#39	[-]
Posts: 562 (05/06/09 1:26 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	AWESOME! Nice shooting Jaro and Nick! I'm completely jealous. I haven't had time to peruse the planet in the past month or so(work school, yada yada yada). It's good to see and hear what you guys are up to (f--king awesome twang, thank you audio). I thought I saw a couple Simon Stanleys out there. One criticism, you didn't show yourselves hitting the road sign from 240 yards. Great work and fun! Mark
Oengus		#40	[-]
Posts: 110 (05/06/09 1:40 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	What do you use to attach the points? Some type of epoxy? What happened to the Spaniards/ That made so great a boast-o?/ Well they shall eat the feathered goose;/ We shall eat the roast-o! - Oysterband, Hal-An-Tow

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