Dehairing and Bark tanning ?'s

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Minutemann 1		#21	[-]
Posts: 31 (12/25/08 3:39 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I don't think you could force it by wringing. Maybe in a pressurized container it would go faster. I know that moving the hides around more speeds the absorption of the tannin.
Minutemann 1		#22	[-]
Posts: 32 (12/30/08 5:38 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Simmered up some strong stuff yesterday. It produced much stronger(darker) liquid than just soaking does. Hopefully it'll be enough to finish the 4 hides in the liquor. I've gone through 55 gallons of bark already.
Minutemann 1		#23	[-]
Posts: 33 (12/31/08 12:38 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	After two or three days the new liquor is already noticeably lighter than the second half of the simmered stuff I set back to strengthen it with.The one with the hides in it is brown like a grizzly bear, the simmered is dark, dark brown like Guinness. I went ahead and poured in the last of the strong stuff. I'm out of bark and just found out my brother in law sold the chipper/ shredder my dad used to have in the garage. Guess I'm gonna have to find some more bark. I've used a 55 gallon drum full of bark chips so far for these four hides and they are still not done. Its been 25 days since I put 'em in..
JoyDelight		#24	[-]
Posts: 155 (01/04/09 12:54 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Wow you are really taking on a lot of hides at once. How is the new solution going. It's now almost five days later? Did you locate some more bark? Got any photogrpahs? I'd like to see what the hides look like at this stage. Have you checked the ph of the water? braintan.com has some great information on bark tanning. Jan Actions speak louder than words.
Minutemann 1		#25	[-]
Posts: 34 (01/04/09 10:21 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I have a line on more material from a wood working place. They store their sawdust under a carport but the over spill gets rained on and when it does the rain passing through it comes out black according to my buddy that works there. He said he had contemplated just scooping up the dark water and using that to tan. Evidently it's mostly from oak but could have some hickory sawdust in it as well. Gonna check it out this week. Got no idea what the ph level is. If I can't tan for free then I won't do it . As far as how things are going the hides really sucked up the concentrated/ simmered liquor pretty quick. They went from being 1/4 tanned to 3/4 in a matter of days after I put in the strong stuff. Haven't cut on one here lately. I'll probably check 'em out this afternoon.
JoyDelight		#26	[-]
Posts: 157 (01/05/09 5:07 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Yes, I like to use the natural materials that i can find, sumac leaves are my preference for vegetable tanning. I have a garbage back full of leaves I dried. I'm going to use them for some hair on deer legs and maybe a small hide hair on. I have tried sumac on hair on hides with good results. It does colore the white part a little brown though. Maybe I am not washing it out well enough. I look forward to seeing your results. I really enjoy the sumac tanned hides I've done for making pouches and bags. Jan Actions speak louder than words.
Minutemann 1		#27	[-]
Posts: 35 (01/06/09 6:13 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Well my bark/ sawdust supplier turned out to be a bust. 95% pine. Now I gotta wait a week til my arborist friend gets home from vacation to get some more oak chippings.
inwabo		#28	[-]
Posts: 305 (01/06/09 8:56 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Minuteman, Go to your local garden shop and pick up a 50 lb bag of landscaping fir bark - fine sized, not coarse. I have used this before with decent results on goatskins and some deer. Just simmer it as you would any other tannin producing tree bark. The wood (or sawdust) of these trees would be of little value in extracting tannins. They are present but not near as concentrated as in the bark. Patrick _________________________________________________________________________________________ Metaphors be with you.
JoyDelight		#29	[-]
Posts: 160 (01/06/09 5:18 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Fir bark, I looked up fir bark and Home Depot and Lowes has it. Have to be careful some is not pure bark, but mixed with other wood chips or nut hulls. Just what I read in a forum talking about fir bark for horticultural purposes. The inner bark kind is less expensive, good for tanning I'd think, and it is supposed to be more powdery. Glad to know a source for bark tanning. I might want to try this one some of my stored rawhide this winter. Jan Actions speak louder than words.
Hillbilly NC		#30	[-]
Posts: 2665 (01/07/09 11:15 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Around here, most sawmills have a big pile of shredded hardwood bark that they sell for landscaping mulch. It's mostly oak, and the fresh stuff should work good for tanning. Save the Cro-Magnons
Minutemann 1		#31	[-]
Posts: 36 (01/08/09 4:33 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	The place where my he got the stuff from is actually a pallet sawmill next to where he works. They use 80 percent oak the rest is hickory and some maple. I checked what he brought me and it sure smells like oak bark to me... I'll probably have to wait til this weekend to simmer some . I'll let ya know.
Minutemann 1		#32	[-]
Posts: 37 (01/10/09 1:09 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Paul brought me a 30# bag of sawdust and the same amount of shredded stuff. I tossed the sawdust in my 30 gallon stainless steel syrup boiler this morning and have been heating it all day. I've already taken 5 gallons of dark, dark , brown tanning stuff out of the pot. Smells, looks and feels strong. Looks like sawdust works folks!
Minutemann 1		#33	[-]
Posts: 42 (01/18/09 12:27 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Waiting for the thicker hides to be done.

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