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        <![CDATA[ I would like to open this thread to discuss attributes of known Ishi points and replication of same. The recent 100 year anniversary of Ishi's surrender has reignited my interest in these points.  ]]>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: Ishi Point Tribute and Replication Discussion ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Ralph,  that pic brings back fond memories. The 1st time I met Charlie, he let me handle Ishi's points and he didn't know me from Adam. It made a lasting impression on me. Knapper42 wrote... "  were they a flat point or convex/plano?  most pictures I've ...<br /><a href="http://paleoplanet69529.yuku.com/reply/472446/Ishi-Point-Tribute-and-Replication-Discussion#reply-472446">Read More</a> ]]></description>

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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: Ishi Point Tribute and Replication Discussion ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Held by myself at Fort Osage knappin.  Glass point is approximately 2.75 inches long ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ They were slightly convex and fairly thin, under 3/16ths of an inch. I try to make the preform about 1/8 inch thick before notching. Makes it much easier to do the notches. For super tight openings, the edge needs to be very thin and sharp. If the edge is...<br /><a href="http://paleoplanet69529.yuku.com/reply/470000/Ishi-Point-Tribute-and-Replication-Discussion#reply-470000">Read More</a> ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2013 23:58:05 PST</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: Ishi Point Tribute and Replication Discussion ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ thanks Phil.  were they a flat point or convex/plano?  most pictures I've seen make them look flat as a pancake, no center ridge etc.
jack ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2013 03:03:52 PST</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Typical length would be about 2 1/4 to 2 1/2 inches and about 7/8 of an inch across the base, Jack. Ishi made this style up to about 3 1/8 inches but most were in the shorter range.

Philip ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Metrics from Justice for archaeological RSN points morphologically identical to what&nbsp;most knappers&nbsp;call "Ishi points":Axial length (tip to center of basal concavity):&nbsp; 55-60mmTotal lengtch (down centerline to even with basal corners):&nbsp;...<br /><a href="http://paleoplanet69529.yuku.com/reply/469198/Ishi-Point-Tribute-and-Replication-Discussion#reply-469198">Read More</a> ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2013 21:42:18 PST</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[ when we refer to an Ishi point these days, triangle shape, tear drop notches, etc., what is the typical length and width at the base?jack   edit for question.what is the Ishi profile, plano/convex, flat, center ridges? ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ @ Pamunkey:It could also be that Ishi's group, like just about every other bow-using culture&nbsp;in&nbsp;world history even through the Middle Ages, had different types of points for different purposes.&nbsp; Thus, Ishi would have had a whole library of ...<br /><a href="http://paleoplanet69529.yuku.com/reply/468780/Ishi-Point-Tribute-and-Replication-Discussion#reply-468780">Read More</a> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ The arrowpoints Ishi was producing prior to coming to the museum were significantly different than the ones he produced afterward http://hearstmuseum.berkeley.edu/exhibitions/ncc/gallery_4_2_1_3.htmlThe style he most often produced at the museum most clos...<br /><a href="http://paleoplanet69529.yuku.com/reply/468745/Ishi-Point-Tribute-and-Replication-Discussion#reply-468745">Read More</a> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ @ William Munny:So I guess I'm "Unforgiven" too, eh?&nbsp; That's a shame because it really limits the scope of discussion.&nbsp; OK,&nbsp;I take it&nbsp;you're just talking about the points Ishi made himself.All I was trying to do was put Ishi into conte...<br /><a href="http://paleoplanet69529.yuku.com/reply/468680/Ishi-Point-Tribute-and-Replication-Discussion#reply-468680">Read More</a> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Bullethead wrote .........&nbsp; "


I was making a poor attempt to get an answer to a
 question I have about this thread.&nbsp; Are you interested only in the 
points Ishi himself made, or in replicating the type"The answer was I thought, self evide...<br /><a href="http://paleoplanet69529.yuku.com/reply/468677/Ishi-Point-Tribute-and-Replication-Discussion#reply-468677">Read More</a> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Having posted the above, I went looking for Redding's original 1879 text, found it for free, and it's VERY informative.Here's the link:http://www.jstor.org/stable/2449274?seq=1Because it's out of copyright, you can save a PDF copy of your own, unusual for...<br /><a href="http://paleoplanet69529.yuku.com/reply/468642/Ishi-Point-Tribute-and-Replication-Discussion#reply-468642">Read More</a> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ @ William Munny:I wasn't trying to spiral off into semantics, I was making a poor attempt to get an answer to a question I have about this thread.&nbsp; Are you interested only in the points Ishi himself made, or in replicating the type (official name Red...<br /><a href="http://paleoplanet69529.yuku.com/reply/468641/Ishi-Point-Tribute-and-Replication-Discussion#reply-468641">Read More</a> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I've looked at some links and sites and it's really hard to pick out the details on them most photos are shiny but seems like lots of random flakes. I wonder what type of steel his nails were for replication. If only they gotten his language down while he...<br /><a href="http://paleoplanet69529.yuku.com/reply/468599/Ishi-Point-Tribute-and-Replication-Discussion#reply-468599">Read More</a> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ mohawkwoodman wrote:Can anyone manage to post a cross section view was he  a downward pressure flaker or straight in pressure "pancakes"Johnson, &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; no one can say for sure as the ...<br /><a href="http://paleoplanet69529.yuku.com/reply/468593/Ishi-Point-Tribute-and-Replication-Discussion#reply-468593">Read More</a> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Can anyone manage to post a cross section view was he  a downward pressure flaker or straight in pressure "pancakes" ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I did a couple of goldstone Ishis for a guy last year. He had a magazine article he'd printed off the Internet that showed some points that Ishi had supposedly made out of goldstone. I don't remember what magazine it was but the pictures were different th...<br /><a href="http://paleoplanet69529.yuku.com/reply/432914/Ishi-Point-Tribute-and-Replication-Discussion#reply-432914">Read More</a> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ In deference to Ray, I have withheld my opinions. Gentlemen, there are in my judgement much more wrong with the points in question than the chameleon like growing of sections. . Examine them closely and express your thoughts...........&nbsp; Dennis ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I too have been watching and waiting.

"The only difference is that the sections missing in the second photo are not missing in the first photo."   True , in the first photo,  the pieces are there, But the point is clearly broken, with the pieces laid i...<br /><a href="http://paleoplanet69529.yuku.com/reply/432809/Ishi-Point-Tribute-and-Replication-Discussion#reply-432809">Read More</a> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ &nbsp; I`ve been watching this post for a while now... nothing yet from Mr. Ray?&nbsp; I know it`s been a while since anything has been posted here, has this discussion died?&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I hope it`s just taking a break to gather it`s second wind, bu...<br /><a href="http://paleoplanet69529.yuku.com/reply/432746/Ishi-Point-Tribute-and-Replication-Discussion#reply-432746">Read More</a> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I would like to open this thread to discuss attributes of known Ishi points and replication of same. The recent 100 year anniversary of Ishi's surrender has reignited my interest in these points. ]]></description>

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