How does one "spine" arrows?

Re: How does one "spine" arrows?

feeds@yuku.com (alan) — Wed, 18 Feb 2009 11:23:24 GMT

Rod,
See you on Sunday at Wolfshead.

Alan Clark

Re: How does one "spine" arrows?

feeds@yuku.com (cyrille) — Sat, 14 Feb 2009 12:30:42 GMT

Mr. Rod
I am not looking to spine shafts as of yet; however if you can help me I would apprecate it.
I bought a "test kit" to help me determine what is the correct spine for my horse bow. Without going into too much detail. If the "test kit" does in fact help me to determine the correct spine for my bow I need advice on how to determine which spine weight is correct.
The arrows in the test kit are already rear nocked, fletched, stained, sealed and crested...

Re: How does one "spine" arrows?

feeds@yuku.com (Rod) — Mon, 26 Jan 2009 06:07:43 GMT

Mark,
You can keep both eyes open as you look at the mark and initiate the draw so that your stereoscopic vision can judge the distance.
Close the dominant eye when it is not over the shaft as you come into precise lateral alignment but after you have registered your elevation.

Or do as someone else does that I know of and learn to intuitively offset your alignment for the distance.
Whatever works Best for you.
The arrows will...

Re: How does one "spine" arrows?

feeds@yuku.com (Bohica) — Sun, 25 Jan 2009 12:52:45 GMT

Rod, Never have i shot a set of arrows like i did today. I don't know why i never thought about it before. I shot some arrows today with my left eye shut and had 100% improvement

thank you for mentioning it.

Re: How does one "spine" arrows?

feeds@yuku.com (edwards) — Sat, 24 Jan 2009 08:39:19 GMT

Rod, glad to be able to read your post. You do go into detail. How about e-mailing me . I had to change servers and lost everyone addresses. Matt

Re: How does one "spine" arrows?

feeds@yuku.com (Rod) — Fri, 23 Jan 2009 03:07:17 GMT

Thanks Alan,
I'm thinking about it. I reckon it is over 120 miles each way if I go over the Humber Bridge.
Rod.

Re: How does one "spine" arrows?

feeds@yuku.com (alan) — Thu, 22 Jan 2009 02:31:08 GMT

Rod,
Wolfshead is a great shoot. 18 targets in a steeply sloping wood, and 18 out on the open moor, all cunningly laid out.
I was a member there until I recently left to form another club, so I will be shooting there at their next shoot on 22nd. Feb.
Be good to meet up.

Alan Clark

Re: How does one "spine" arrows?

feeds@yuku.com (Rod) — Thu, 22 Jan 2009 01:34:23 GMT

Alan,
The width at the pass is what creates the degree of centreshot.
I will add a note to this effect.
The factor that was omitted, as you were quick to observe, was brace height.

I guess you must be close to Wolfshead at Robin Hood's Bay.
I was thinking about going to a shoot there.
What kind of ground is it?

Rod.

Re: How does one "spine" arrows?

feeds@yuku.com (alan) — Wed, 21 Jan 2009 11:51:45 GMT

Rod,

In a sense SDT is also correct when he says degree of centre shot.
Arrow match-up to one of my longbows is quite critical. ( I made them from soft English yew and they are wide in the handle)
Arrow match-up to my almost centre shot flatbow is much easier to achieve. Once I have an arrow that is stiff enough to shoot straight, a slightly stiffer arrow will still shoot straight.
So I have more leeway. As a practical example, I can match up a new set of arrows using...

Re: How does one "spine" arrows?

feeds@yuku.com (Rod) — Tue, 20 Jan 2009 06:38:59 GMT

alan wrote:
Rod,

BRACE HEIGHT

Alan Clark

Brace height it is.

Currently posting the revised version in the archive.
Then I am starting on a full revision, simplification and reordering of the shooting topics and at last getting around to adding the new stuff.
Please bear with me as I work my way through it a piece at a time.

Re: How does one "spine" arrows?

feeds@yuku.com (alan) — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 11:50:04 GMT

Rod,

BRACE HEIGHT

Alan Clark

Re: How does one "spine" arrows?

feeds@yuku.com (StringDrivenThing) — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 10:15:25 GMT

"I left out a fundamental feature of bow set up as affecting arrow spine selection.
What was it? "

Degree of centre-shot?

Re: How does one "spine" arrows?

feeds@yuku.com (Rod) — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 01:20:25 GMT

I've been waiting for the lights to go on in someone's house and a correction or comment to be posted, but so far only Pathfinder78 has come close, skirting around it.
It is implicit in paras 3 & 4 of my original post. Pathfinder skirts around it in post 12 without putting his finger on the button, and I virtually give the game away in my response in post 13.

There is also a less important question regarding shaft contact that I would have expected to follow on from...

Re: How does one "spine" arrows?

feeds@yuku.com (alan) — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 08:28:45 GMT

SDT,
Good luck!

Alan

Re: How does one "spine" arrows?

feeds@yuku.com (StringDrivenThing) — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 06:54:37 GMT

Alan, thanks. I purchased a bunch of dodgy shafts and now they've redeemed themselves in pictures.

Maybe I'll build them into arrows still, and skewer a few rabbits that hide out in the tomato plants heh-heh-heh.......

Re: How does one "spine" arrows?

feeds@yuku.com (alan) — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 06:10:04 GMT

Jawge,thanks, I see what you mean now.

String Driven Thing, you can't beat a few pictures to make things clear, and if you are hoping for a good crop of tomatoes, those poplar shafts might not even hold them up!

Alan

Re: How does one "spine" arrows?

feeds@yuku.com (George Tsoukalas) — Mon, 05 Jan 2009 20:11:02 GMT

Yes, indeed towards the shooter's bow hand or towards the point of the arrow, SDT. Dad, Lord rest him, was a woodworker who in spite of being safety conscious made many a trip to the ER. Kind of made me very careful. Left or right? Good point that would be a good thing for an custom arrowsmith to ask. But it's rarely done. Jawge

Re: How does one "spine" arrows?

feeds@yuku.com (StringDrivenThing) — Mon, 05 Jan 2009 20:00:00 GMT

George, I'm not sure if you saw my photos before you posted, they got removed & I just now reinserted them.
You are spot on & I've no problem with doing it the way Chinn & Conrad recommend....why risk a severe injury?

To take this grain-runout orientation another degree, I'd say an arrowsmith that's on the ball would ask his customer
if he's right or left-handed too. An arrow properly oriented...

Re: How does one "spine" arrows?

feeds@yuku.com (George Tsoukalas) — Mon, 05 Jan 2009 17:14:41 GMT

alan, in between those rifts are the weakest parts of the shaft. Jawge

Re: How does one "spine" arrows?

feeds@yuku.com (George Tsoukalas) — Mon, 05 Jan 2009 17:13:13 GMT

SDT,I hate to see someone get hurt. I hand plane my shafts so I am really safety conscious. If you don't believe me, which is ok, then check the book the Winds of Change by Jim Chinn P 81. Also, see PP 147-148 of Conrad's The Traditional Bowhunter's Handbook. This is a commonly accepted practice among arrowsmiths. Not my creation. <<<< point these (rifts) to your hand on top of the shaft when the shaft is in the shooting position i.e. towards the point. That way it...

How does one "spine" arrows?

feeds@yuku.com (zaboomafoozarg) — Wed, 10 Dec 2008 19:44:45 GMT

Hey folks, I'm just completely new to this archery thing (I've been hanging out over at the Primitive Bows section but then I realized I'm gonna need some arrows too, haha!) so I wondered, first of all, what does "spine" mean and how does one do it for arrows meant for a particular bow.

Many thanks if you can help me out here!