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        <![CDATA[ Ok folks I&#39;ll bring ya&#39;ll up to speed on where I am then I&#39;ll lay my questions on ya. Went hunting twice this year and killed three does( firearms
season). I wanted to tan the hides so I fleshed them and sank them in an ash/water solutions to get the hair to slip. Musta been a little strong because in two
days the hair was slipping real well.

Heres where I lost my gumption. I grained the smallest hide and threw the other two over the hill. The lye just seemed like a giant mess... ]]>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Waiting for the thicker hides to be done. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Paul brought me a 30# bag of sawdust and the same amount of shredded stuff. I tossed the sawdust in my 30 gallon stainless steel syrup boiler this morning and
have been heating it all day. I&#39;ve already taken 5 gallons of dark, dark , brown tanning stuff out of the pot. Smells, looks and feels strong. Looks like
sawdust works folks! ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ The place where my he got the stuff from is actually a pallet sawmill next to where he works. They use 80 percent oak the rest is hickory and some maple. I
checked what he brought me and it sure smells like oak bark to me... I&#39;ll probably have to wait til this weekend to simmer some . I&#39;ll let ya know. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Around here, most sawmills have a big pile of shredded hardwood bark that they sell for landscaping mulch. It&#39;s mostly oak, and the fresh stuff should work
good for tanning. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Fir bark,
<br>
<br>
I looked up fir bark and Home Depot and Lowes has it. Have to be careful some is not pure bark, but mixed with other wood chips or nut hulls. Just what I read
in a forum talking about fir bark for horticultural purposes. The inner bark kind is less expensive, good for tanning I&#39;d think, and it is supposed to be
more powdery.
<br>
<br>
Glad to know a source for bark tanning. I might want to try this one some of my stored rawhide this winter.
<br>
<br>
Jan ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 17:18:50 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Minuteman,
<br>
<br>
Go to your local garden shop and pick up a 50 lb bag of landscaping fir bark - fine sized, not coarse. I have used this before with decent results on goatskins
and some deer. Just simmer it as you would any other tannin producing tree bark.
<br>
<br>
The wood (or sawdust) of these trees would be of little value in extracting tannins. They are present but not near as concentrated as in the bark.
<br>
<br>
Patrick ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Well my bark/ sawdust supplier turned out to be a bust. 95% pine.
<br>
Now I gotta wait a week til my arborist friend gets home from vacation to get some more oak chippings. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Yes, I like to use the natural materials that i can find, sumac leaves are my preference for vegetable tanning. I have a garbage back full of leaves I dried.
I&#39;m going to use them for some hair on deer legs and maybe a small hide hair on. I have tried sumac on hair on hides with good results. It does colore the
white part a little brown though. Maybe I am not washing it out well enough. I look forward to seeing your results. I really enjoy the sumac tanned hides
I&#39;ve done for making... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I have a line on more material from a wood working place. They store their sawdust under a carport but the over spill gets rained on and when it does the rain
passing through it comes out black according to my buddy that works there. He said he had contemplated just scooping up the dark water and using that to tan.
Evidently it&#39;s mostly from oak but could have some hickory sawdust in it as well.
<br>
Gonna check it out this week.
<br>
Got no idea what the ph level is. If I can&#39;t tan... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Wow you are really taking on a lot of hides at once. How is the new solution going. It&#39;s now almost five days later? Did you locate some more bark?
<br>
<br>
Got any photogrpahs? I&#39;d like to see what the hides look like at this stage. Have you checked the ph of the water? braintan.com has some great information
on bark tanning.
<br>
<br>
Jan ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ After two or three days the new liquor is already noticeably lighter than the second half of the simmered stuff I set back to strengthen it with.The one with
the hides in it is brown like a grizzly bear, the simmered is dark, dark brown like Guinness. I went ahead and poured in the last of the strong stuff.
<br>
I&#39;m out of bark and just found out my brother in law sold the chipper/ shredder my dad used to have in the garage. Guess I&#39;m gonna have to find some
more bark. I&#39;ve used a... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Simmered up some strong stuff yesterday. It produced much stronger(darker) liquid than just soaking does. Hopefully it&#39;ll be enough to finish the 4 hides
in the liquor. I&#39;ve gone through 55 gallons of bark already. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I don&#39;t think you could force it by wringing. Maybe in a pressurized container it would go faster. I know that moving the hides around more speeds the
absorption of the tannin. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ what if you wrung the hides to force the tannin into the center of the hide? ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ what if you wrung the hides to force the tannin into the center of the hide? ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ That&#39;s what I&#39;ll try then, thanks, Wa-bo. Maybe as early as Friday.
<br>
I cut through the neck on three of the hides today and they are still not struck through yet. The thinnest(grained one) is the farthest along but its still got
some white in the center. I really need to get the tannin concentration up I think . Hopefully that&#39;ll speed things up a bit. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Everything I have read says simmer, not boil, so that is what I have always done.
<br>
<br>
Patrick ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Wanted to haul out the 30 gallon stainless steel maple syrup boiling pan and simmer up some strong stuff outside but the 20 mph winds and 10 degree temps put
the ky-bosh on that. I went ahead and took out 5 gallons of old bark and put in ten gallons, 5 of which steeped in hot water for two hours before adding. Its
smelling much better and the 1 grained hide is almost struck through already.
<br>
How long should I expect it to take for the grain on hides to be done?
<br>
I&#39;m checking them... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Hey Adam!
<br>
Yeah, bark was green and fresh when I got it.
<br>
Thanks fror the link , inwabo, Yeah, I&#39;d read it.
<br>
Gonna strengthen the solution this afternoon.
<br>
Need to haul them out anyway and check on the progress. They&#39;ve been in since the 6th of December. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Hey Minuteman,
<br>
<br>
HAve you read this article? <a target="_blank" href="http://www.braintan.com/barktan/1basics.htm">http://www.braintan.com/barktan/1basics.htm</a>
<br>
<br>
It was very helpful to me when learning to barktan.
<br>
<br>
I like to make my bark solutions in a large pot - simmer a potful of bark and water for 6-8 hours, then add to the tanning container. If you need solutions
stronger than you can get just by simmering bark you can concentrate solutions by adding several... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Ok folks I&#39;ll bring ya&#39;ll up to speed on where I am then I&#39;ll lay my questions on ya. Went hunting twice this year and killed three does( firearms
season). I wanted to tan the hides so I fleshed them and sank them in an ash/water solutions to get the hair to slip. Musta been a little strong because in two
days the hair was slipping real well.
<br>
Heres where I lost my gumption. I grained the smallest hide and threw the other two over the hill. The lye just seemed like a giant... ]]></description>

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